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    Default ATA in front of router, why not?

    I don't think I've ever heard a compelling argument for not doing this. I know some say it is a security issue , but why?

    If your ATA is after the DSL Modem (mine is a RT31P2) and is feeding your main router (mine is a WRT54GL) isn't the router still handling traffic flow in and out or your network?

    DSL Modem-->RT31P2-->WRT54GL.

    Thanks
    Jeff

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    Default Re: ATA in front of router, why not?

    I would think it would be fine, as long as every other device is plugged into your router, it should be behind your firewall. To me this would be the ideal situation if you're on cable internet (DHCP). It's not any different than putting the ATA in the DMZ.

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    Default Re: ATA in front of router, why not?

    Putting the ATA in the DMZ has always been a questionable practice, due to opening of possible security breaches.

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    Default Re: ATA in front of router, why not?

    Isn't putting the ATA in the DMZ just opening the ATA to the internet or does it allow other devices at risk?

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    Default Re: ATA in front of router, why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by jlachowin View Post
    Isn't putting the ATA in the DMZ just opening the ATA to the internet or does it allow other devices at risk?
    Correct, it just allows the ATA to be exposed to the internet. Some newer routers limit the exposure so that's it is not true DMZ. I run my ATA behind my router since my router will forward the necessary ports automatically and still let me have my firewall enabled. In most cases, I actually think you are more secure with your ATA in front of the router and have your router firewall enabled. Most routers with an ATA behind requires the firewall on the router to be disabled. As long as the ATA has a strong password and is changed routinely (something VOIPo does do) you are not at much risk with the ATA in front of your router.

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    Default Re: ATA in front of router, why not?

    I think that it may be relative as to whether he is using the RT to provide the PPPoE or whether the Linksysys doing so and the DSL modem is simply bridged.

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    Default Re: ATA in front of router, why not?

    Some folks find the ATA/Router limiting throughput. If you're one who cares about such things, run some speed tests and see if there is any difference.
    Russell

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    Default Re: ATA in front of router, why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Russell View Post
    Some folks find the ATA/Router limiting throughput. If you're one who cares about such things, run some speed tests and see if there is any difference.
    If you're suggesting utilizing the ATA as a router, I found that the bandwidth is impacted when it is set up like this.

    I find a decent stand-alone router difficult enough to keep running properly. The bundled devices have never done too well for me, but I suppose if a person has only one PC and wants to incorporate VOIP with a bundled device, it might be OK.

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    Default Re: ATA in front of router, why not?

    I found that my VOIPo service simply did not work when I put the ATA (RTP312) in front of the router. The service would go offline frequently. Too bad, as I would prefer it there.
    Steve

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    Default Re: ATA in front of router, why not?

    I moved mine to behind the router because I felt uncomfortable with the passwords (two or more) being unique, proper, and controlled.

    There's no means to to DYNDNS or equiv. This is a show stopper.

    And other port forwarding and triggering capabilities are missing. The cascaded routers and double-NAT is hard to manage, for a home like mine that has 3 IP cameras, private, me-only HTTP server and FTP server.

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