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  1. #1
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    Default Re: Express Users

    I should echo the comment that my usage is sporadic at best, so it may not be the best indicator of reliable service. (Though, if it were flaky when I tried to use it, it probably would be serious cause for concern... ) I see that you moved the 'block/enable Canada calls' for tollfree numbers to the 'preferences' page. I think it makes more sense to have it as one of the options on the tollfree number page (that displays once you order a TF number). The other option I'd suggest is posting a link on the 'Order a Tollfree number' page for 'call blocking options'.

    The other thing that I'd throw out there is to put some more thought into the concept of blocking/allowing incoming tollfree calls from payphones. I understand the abuse concerns and applaud a conservative stance (both to protect you and your customers). However, I'd propose a few thoughts to limit the abuse potential...
    • Allow enabling or blocking of incoming payphone calls, but place a limit on the number of incoming payphone tollfree calls per month/day/week.
    • Allow enabling or blocking of incoming payphone calls, but place a limit on the dollar amount of 'credit' allowed on an incoming tollfree account/number, especially early in the account's history.
    • Put a control to block/enable incoming payphone calls on the website, but disable it by default. In order to enable the control, require certain identity verification measures , similar to what Hostgator requires before they grant ssh access.


    The 'case-by-case' basis that you had informally proposed earlier could certainly work while you're small, but building a process around it early in the game would, IMO, be best.

  2. #2
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    Default Re: Express Users

    For Toll-Free:

    • What is the fee for payphones?
    • Is that fee different from Canada?


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  3. #3
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    Default Re: Express Users

    Typically, if someone from a payphone dials a tollfree number, that number is hit with a significant connection fee--maybe 50 cents give or take? I have no idea if that's different for Canadian payphones. The issue with blocking Canada is that inbound calls from Canada are 7c/min, but from the US are 5c/min (or so). Now that cell phones are so prevalent, it seems much less important to allow inbound calls from payphones, but thinking of the however improbably 'emergency situation,' like a teenager who doesn't keep her cellphone charged is driving alone on a rural highway, car dies, she walks to a gas station, finds a payphone... :-D

    The problem, as I see it from what I think is Tim's perspective (he can correct me if needed) is that the following scenario is much more probable: someone steals a credit card number, sets up a tollfree number that allows inbound tollfree from payphones, sets up quite the 'business'... repeats cycle with new card each time the current one gets discovered and blocked... Meanwhile, voipo is eating those costs (or even if the bank is, voipo has to deal with all the associated hassles)...

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